Curse

allience · Oct 02, 2007, 11:24 AM // 11:24

*in an attempt to reduce the flaming in this thread i'm reformulating this post.*

there has been a big problem of players leaving/leeching RA, AB, Challenge missions. With the Dishonorable system in place, this kind of griefing was reduces and i'm thankful for that.

However, the dishonor system currently prevents players from doing other forms of PvP like GvG, TA, Hero Battles, Heroes Ascent. i think that this feature is wrong and distrupts the game experience of other ppl who suffer because of another person has this hex on them.

Problems:
1. The initial problem was in RA, AB, Challenge mission. Dishonor effectively addresses this problem of keeping griefers out of these 3 areas. Howver it creates a bigger problem on the overall pvp system. there is no reason to ban ppl for all the other pvp areas since they did NOT cause a problem in the other arenas.

2. Report abuse. this is a new form of griefing that some players use. it's very easy to get a large number of reports on 1 person. many players have multiple accounts that they can use to report somebody in order to get them dishonored. added to that, they can also ask friends to help. currently u can be reported for MANY things such as language, names, general griefing.

Anet please remove the dishonor hex from other pvp areas such as GvG, TA, Hero Battles, Heroes Ascent. or at least revise the system to STOP report grieving. TY!

lucifer_uk · Oct 02, 2007, 11:27 AM // 11:27

Tell them not to leave/leach/abuse pvp before a gvg match?

Lonesamurai · Oct 02, 2007, 11:32 AM // 11:32

I'm all for the dishonor to affect gvg aswell...

I don't want dishonor asshats in my guilds GvG team

thor thunder · Oct 02, 2007, 11:40 AM // 11:40

/signed
Pvp is great and all and people who join a group and leave should get punished but affecting other ppls play time in gvg isnt aceptable, i think we should pay to get into a pvp match BUT at the end we get the money back IF you stay with it till the end, that way ppl can leave and still go about there life just not as rich as they were? Or every time you leave/leach/abuse pvp they subtract factions from you.. haveing a hex on you so you cant go to other pvps is just stupid half the ppl who leave are leaveing to go to pve anyhow.. it herts to much in one area but not enof over all.

RTSFirebat · Oct 02, 2007, 11:50 AM // 11:50

lol.

Well then they should have no been leechers / leavers in normal PvP. GvG is another form of PvP, so if they are dishonourable in one form why should they still be allowed to do another?

The Dishonour Hex is clearly working as intended, to stop dishonourable players from joining PvP till they sit down and think about what they did wrong

fenix · Oct 02, 2007, 11:52 AM // 11:52

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

lol.

Well then they should have no been leechers / leavers in normal PvP. GvG is another form of PvP, so if they are dishonourable in one form why should they still be allowed to do another?

The Dishonour Hex is clearly working as intended, to stop dishonourable players from joining PvP till they sit down and think about what they did wrong

Not at all. People can report you for ANYTHING, and you'll get the hex. They should make it that if you get reported for abuse, you are banned from where you were reported. It shouldn't cross over into other PvP, makes no sense. The system can be abused so much, that it should just be situational, rather than applying to EVERYWHERE.

Eldrene · Oct 02, 2007, 11:57 AM // 11:57

Imagine for a moment you have a party with your friends every weekend (say at your place). Then you get arrested for some crime, however small it may be. Extend your line of reasoning about punishing your guild by the hex to this situation and your say that the law/police punish your friends.

Choose your guildies more carefully.

allience · Oct 02, 2007, 12:09 PM // 12:09

@lucifer, i'm not responsable for somebody else's actions.

@lonesamurai, leaving or erroring RANDOM ARENAS doesn't make sum1 an asshat. as i see thinkgs, RA become "the sh!t" that has power over the whole game experience of other ppl.

@RTS, it's not working as intended. ppl won't sit there thinking about what they did wrong, they'll just go PVE. if you rly wanted to make them think about it, u'd have to deny them access from the whole game if they'd get dishonored. and i'd dare anet to do that and see their player database go to hell. and if i had ppl raging in gvg, i'd kick them, simple. but if i kick them from my guild, that DOESN'T sop them from going in another guild or from playing in another arena. so why doing something stupid in RA stops them from doing something else? this system is ONE sided and biased.

i think u guys misunderstood my post. logically, if somebody does something wrong in 1 place, they are banned from that particular place.

to put it into other words, let's say i act like an ass at the local pool. i get banned from the local pool but i don't get banned from the library or the local pub. u get what i mean?

ban ppl from RA and if they wanna return there again, then they'll think twice about raging. but 1 arena has nothing to do with another arena.

Moloch Vein · Oct 02, 2007, 12:10 PM // 12:10

Because they are leechs and lamers who don't deserve to be playing the game?

It's real simple, behave properly and you'll never have a problem.

/notsigned

bungusmaximus · Oct 02, 2007, 12:37 PM // 12:37

>emptied, pic doesn't show<

RTSFirebat · Oct 02, 2007, 12:47 PM // 12:47

Well at the end of the day they must have done something to get the hex, so really they should avoid doing so. At the end of the day the system can be semi-abused, but it really bottles down to how you play during PvP areas.

Lonesamurai · Oct 02, 2007, 12:51 PM // 12:51

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Originally Posted by allience

@lonesamurai, leaving or erroring RANDOM ARENAS doesn't make sum1 an asshat. as i see thinkgs, RA become "the sh!t" that has power over the whole game experience of other ppl.

Its simple...

I don't goto RA anymore

RA should have always only been a place for newbies to unlock TA anyway, nothing more, nothing less

bungusmaximus · Oct 02, 2007, 12:51 PM // 12:51

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

And that word is?

lol, or someone removed it or guru doesn't do links to other website's, in both cases, sry for the mess :P

Avarre · Oct 02, 2007, 12:52 PM // 12:52

I don't really see a point in blocking someone from other areas for an Arena, that really, nobody gives much of a damn about. Block them from the arena they abused, fine, but GvG is an entirely different issue. If you're so adamant about restricting play around RA, why not block PvE too, or just give out bans from logging in entirely?

Also, the irony of leaving RA so you can go AT only to get banned is huge.

SeraCombi · Oct 02, 2007, 12:54 PM // 12:54

laff.

happy to see leeching taking its toll on the leecher and his friends for a change...

as one who has helplessly watched over the past year as my teams died a slow death due to leachers, i can frankly say:

Your tears sustain me.

EternalTempest · Oct 02, 2007, 01:02 PM // 13:02

Anet intented to make the punishment for all forms of pvp.
They have also stated they will punish those that abuse the reporting system.

bamm bamm bamm · Oct 02, 2007, 01:03 PM // 13:03

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Originally Posted by Avarre

If you're so adamant about restricting play around RA, why not block PvE too, or just give out bans from logging in entirely?

I guess they think restricting the ban to one arena isn't a strong enough deterrent but stopping people logging in is too strong. I'm inclined to agree.

Aryn Rand · Oct 02, 2007, 01:10 PM // 13:10

Punishing people cause they dident want to watch the wammo tank the other team for 4 minutes, that is pretty retarded. I cant wait untill one high ranked team cant play monthly because one got the dishonor hex.

bungusmaximus · Oct 02, 2007, 01:13 PM // 13:13

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Originally Posted by Aryn Rand

Punishing people cause they dident want to watch the wammo tank the other team for 4 minutes, that is pretty retarded. I cant wait untill one high ranked team cant play monthly because one got the dishonor hex.

I think the system needs some tweaking, you should be allowed to leave an arena battle much earlier then you can leave now. That would solve your problem as well. As for the rest I'm getting rather sick of snobs wasting my time, because I don't give a flying **** about high ranked matches if I personally don't participate.

Kryth · Oct 02, 2007, 01:14 PM // 13:14

Leeching, leaving etc will be punished, what don't u understand about it?

RA leavers being punished for GWG? It is going to happen, it should happen, for the other 3 who're left behind and the opposing 4 who get a free point, someone has to pay.